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Second conversation
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| He: |
There is a passage in the Bible that I find very
difficult. |
| Me: |
Which passage? |
| He: |
Matthew 5: 22 Jesus says if you call someone a fool you
are liable of
going to hell. That seems very harsh. Proverbs is full of
words that call people fools. |
| Me: |
You have to understand what Jesus was saying in his own
time and why he
is saying the same thing to us now. |
| He: |
Will you explain? |
| Me: |
Yes, but I will have to draw you to another passage in the
New Testament
where Jesus also talks about Hell. |
| He: |
Which one is that? |
| Me: |
In Matthew 10:18 Jesus tells the disciple to fear God,
because He has
the power to send them to Hell But note what He says
afterwards and this may give you a clue to the passage you are having
difficulty with. |
| He: |
What do you mean? |
| Me: |
In Matthew 10 Jesus is encouraging His disciples to go on
mission and
warns them not to be put off by the opposition they will receive, but to
be
afraid of failing to use God's power. He goes on to say how much they
are
worth in God's eyes and He will continually watch over them. |
| He: |
How does this relate to the passage that I am having
difficulty with? |
| Me: |
Well it shows that God is not only powerful - He is good.
We can tell he
is good by looking at his creation. The beautiful landscapes, lakes,
mountains and rivers are more majestic than our own constructions of
concrete and steel. The flowers and birds are as beautiful as we are.
But
there are dangers all around us. As St Paul says 'The world is still
groaning in creation'. The earth's plates are shifting, temperatures are
changing, causing floods and upheavals on the land. And we are foolishly
building houses in the wrong place and with the wrong materials. |
| He: |
You are calling people foolish. Are you not in danger of
going to hell? |
| Me: |
I don't think so. |
| He: |
Why not? |
| Me: |
Look more closely at what Jesus is saying. Jesus is saying
how much we
are worth in God's eyes. Yet in Jesus' time. The religious leaders were
doing much to damage the worth of people. Many people were excluded from
worship as they were considered sinners through their occupation or
state of
health. Jesus through his teaching, hospitality and healing, did much to
counteract this. |
| He: |
But you still haven't explained to me why calling a person
a fool should
make them liable to hell? |
| Me: |
When you call a person a fool, you are labelling that
person as
worthless. |
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He: |
But why send you to hell? Why not just tell you to stop
doing it? |
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Me: |
That is just what the Bible says. God does not want anyone
to go to
hell. |
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He: |
Then why have a hell? |
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Me: |
Not an easy question to answer. God as creator has to make
some extremely finely honed decisions. If he makes an error, the universe
explodes and creation is destroyed. It is only through his wisdom that
we have an earth with life on it. He has already warned us through revelation
that the earth will pass away and a new earth will appear which will
truly be His Kingdom. He wants us to be part of that, but if we do not find
Jesus, God, the Spirit or other people worth while, we have nothing to contribute to His
Kingdom and we will need to be discarded. Hell is where we will be
discarded to. |
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He: |
I think I am beginning to understand. So Proverbs is
teaching people to
be more worthwhile and discouraging us from being foolish |
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Me: |
Yes |
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Bruce October 16th 2005
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